New Zealand Registration in 8 weeks

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... and those credits can be added to a full degree course if you wish to do so later.

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Hi pncool,
I agree with gcoe. It's not going to be that easy.
As I understand: you enroll at University for a "programm" rather than just a single paper.
E.g.: You enroll for Post grad Certificate and start with 2 papers. You can then put the programme on hold (I cannot remember for how long this is possible) and either discontinue or re-start some time later. Only in this case, your credits would remain and count towards the certificate (or diploma if you want to go that way).

However, best is really to:
A) ask the Board what they understand you need to do
B) contact the Universities to check what they are able to offer in your particular case

Cheers,
Fyzzio

Thanks Fyzzio & GCOE. I will find out from the Univ about the programs. I would be happy to undertake a comprehensive course which will add on to my clinical knowledge as well.

Do you all know of any Physio from India who has undertaken course in NZ and then got the registration?

pncool.

Hi pncool,
the NZ Ministry of Health/Manatu Hauroa has just published the "Summary results from the 2009 Health Workforce Annual Survey" for the Physiotherapist Workforce.
In table 3 : Qualification country of active physiotherapists, 2009 it says:

India: 4

The total of returned surveys in this section was 2456.

So, I guess, your chances to find someone who has done this successfully before, are slim.:cool:
God luck,
Fyzzio

HiYa!!! Just slowly and painfully trawling through the NZ application form and glad to hear that there are success story's out there! I wondered if anyone out there who has been specialised in one area for more than the 10 years and therefore lacking the "hands on" experience for example in the Respiratory! What happens then. As lucky or not so lucky my past hospital I worked in is going to help me gain some work experince in Neurology however everyone seems a little reluctant to help out in the Respiratory department. So although I've recently managed to work part time locum and have some basic hands on physiotherapy and have a reference to confirm this, But is it enough! My time on ITU only just falls within the past ten years and the board said they would accept it but it would not be a strong piece of evidence. So I don't know a one day refresher course maybe? Any thoughts or suggestions much appreciated:):rolleyes:

what type of visa have people got if they want to work for a couple of years out in NZ? and is it just the visa and registration you need? or is there a governing body you have to join?thanks
lisa

Hi,
the registration gives you permission to apply for a license.
The license is called "Annual practising certificate" and costs about $250,- per annum. You are not able to work without it.
The Physiotherapy Board of New Zealand > Annual Practising Certificate
You have to collect professional development information in a portfolio/logbook, which runs on a 3 year cycle. The portfolio is required for re-certification and will occasionally be checked by the Physioboard.

You can become a member of the NZ Society of Physiotherapists, which I would highly recommend (this includes liability insurance), but this is not compulsory.
: NZ Society of Physiotherapists

Visa, or better permits depends on your age, etc. See here:
Working in New Zealand

Hope this helps,
regards,
Fyzzio

thank you thats really helpful, are u out ther working at the moment? the cost does add up doesnt it! not sure what visa i want as just want to work for a few years like a holiday working visa in oz.

how are u finding the job market out there?
lisa

Hi,
I have been in NZ for more than 10 years and always had a job.
Am lucky that my employer pays for the APC.:D

Generally, as you can also read in other threads, since the latest changes in November 2009, the job situation is really bad.
Have heard that even in "not so desirable" areas, there is currently up to 50 people applying for 1 new grad rotational position, of which ~80% are Physios with massive amounts of experience, who cannot get jobs in private practices after being made redundant ...

Sorry, looks quite grim here .... :(

Regards,
Fyzzio

Hi

Fyzzio is absolutely right. Don't even consider coming here unless you can land a job in advance or just want a holiday. I don't think things will get better for quite some time. The private practice market has really been squeezed by the accident and injury insurance changes and the current conservative government is cutting back on hospital budgets.

Hi guys,

Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this topic so far it has been extremely helpful! Like alot of you I am also trying to get started on the application, I just have a quick question i need to clarify in relation to the clinical hours profile, does this need to be provided by the university or do we prepare our own and get it validated by the university? What have other people done? Also, has anyone had any trouble getting a copy of their course curriculum from their university?

Many Than

Hi guys!

This thread is so helpful, thank you very much for this and congratulations to all who recieved their registration!!! By reading this some of my questions are already answered.
I am a German physio with a Netherlands bac who is also looking for the registration. I know it seems mad at the time if I look at the jobsituation or my studies, but however I will try. I think the biggest problem will be CP or the problem that only worked with prescriptions till now.
Jean85, I have similar problems with my curriculum - it is in German and as I know that my German curriculum will not be adequate for the board, I am not willing to translate it (anyway, I haven't got the money for this either). this leads me to my basic question: Anybody here who might have a translated German curriculum??? What if my German studies fell before or in the 10 years period? Will it be assessed than or not? If not this would solve some of my biggest problems at the moment.
Good luck to you all!
Claudia

Just to let those people know that are in process or considering do there registration. I got mine through in Nov it has cost me a lot of money to complete it and then there are visas to pay for. This whole process is not cheap! At the moment I still have not got a job and I have been looking since January. The competition is very high and it is very very difficult to find work at the mo so I am still stuck in the UK! So, may suggest is you think about this before doing the whole process and paying all that money out and not able to get a job in NZ!


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Hey erine09

sound advice considering the current job market in NZ

after looking at the situation i want to know will it be better if i do sport & exercise science in WINTEC university & then try for a job rather than doing masters in physiotherapy in NZ ?? i have done bachlors in physiotherapy from india this year.
i need your suggestions help me !!!

Hi Jamesmayur.

Most physios with undergraduate training in India have problems meeting the NZ Physio Board requirements for registration in NZ.

The WINTEC course would give you a qualification completely outside physiotherapy. It would not improve your chances of registration in here or many other countries such as Australia. And it would not be considered part of physiotherapy practice although it would be broadening your skills.. However if you wanted to pursue an exercise physiology career this sort of course would do.

WINTEC is not a University. It is a polytechnic which in NZ means a lower level of education than a university. Personally I would be more inclined to apply for a more prestigious institute. In Auckland both AUT (Auckland University of Technology) and Auckland University offer post graduate courses in sport and exercise science. AUT is where one of the schools of physiotherapy is housed so you would have that link. Auckland University is one of our top universities and they do some excellent research in the exercise science area - including some rehabilitative science. Have a look at their programmes

If you want to pursue a physiotherapy career then you would be better off going to one of the physiothereapy schools. In which case consider either Otago university in the South Island or AUT physiotherapy school post grad qualifications. Have a look on their websites and you will see what post grad degrees and course that make up these degrees are available. While it is difficult for to get registration to practice in NZ temporary registration is much more easily attained that you can apply for when enrolling in a course. We have a lot of Indian physios completing higher degrees at these schools and the experience generally seems favourable.

One word of warning: when you have completed your post graduate qualification there may still be hurdles to permanent registration as the board is interested in your basic competencies in cardiopulmonary, neurological and musculoskeletal physiotherapy. However NZ post grad physio courses have good international standing in physiotherapy

Hi, just wanted to ask those who have used the new templates and got successful registration:

did u just reference your appendix in the template or write a sentance to expain/justify what part of the competency it meets?

im finding alot of what im putting in the templates is repetitive in each competency is this right/normal?

hope that makes sense!
thanks in advance
lisa

also is it 3-5 pieces of evidence in total or for each of the 3 specialities?
what stage are you at Lisa?
I'm also compiling it spent ages doing all the wee footery bits!
laura

hiya. i am doing it as i rotate so have done the respiratory bit and doing the msk bit. just trying to gather all the bits and peices together too. not sure if im doing too much but trying to do case studies as evidence.

i understand it to be 3-5 bits per compentency as the templates show.
lisa

i've been doing all the easy stuff like the treaty, the application form and now the cv, so just need to get stuck into the nitty gritty! been gathering information for ages so just need to bite the bullet and get it done-not my preferred choice of how to spend my weekend but hey!
good luck!

Hi

Can I just ask if anyone has looked into the payment side of things? I realise they want the money paid from a New Zealand bank account but being in the UK im not sure of the best one to set up online? does anyone have an ideas or know of good banks to use?

thanks annie xx

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Originally Posted by anniet24_uk

Hi

Can I just ask if anyone has looked into the payment side of things? I realise they want the money paid from a New Zealand bank account but being in the UK im not sure of the best one to set up online? does anyone have an ideas or know of good banks to use?

thanks annie xx

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i'm pretty sure that you can pay with a bankers draft, where you go into your own bank pay the fee and they convert it into NZ dollars. kinda like a postal order i think:D

Hi,
just a quick warning, as I read something here about case studies:

In one of our recent Physio meetings, we discussed ethics and confidentiality.
I hadn't looked into it for a while, but apparently, in NZ, you are not permitted to publish/ send/ share anything that could identify the client. To black-out a person's name, DOB, etc. isn't good enough. You also have to take out ANY clinical information, e.g. muscle strength testing, etc.

Our facilitator had also reviewed the guidelines for the registration application form and on page 14 is a warning, which highlights the same.

Therefore, may I just suggest to not send any case studies to the Physioboard. Unless, of course, you have got written client consent.:)

Cheers,
Fyzzio

Hi Guys,

I recently had my registration returned for not submitting a couple of the mandatory documents correctly eg the hpc certificate alone is NOT sufficient, you need to get a certificate of good standing from the HPC and some other bits regarding my uni course details. Ive sent it back again and im waiting to hear.

I'd be happy to send a copy of one or two of my templates to anyone who'd like a copy as they are a bit tricky to complete and after a couple of phonecalls to the board i think and hope they are ok!

Good luck!

James

Thanks fyzio for that, i find it hard to understand how you can prove your competence without the use of case studies? was there any suggestions made about how to get round this? thanks
lisa

thats a bloody pain since i've just spent ages doing one for each msk,cvp and neuro. i thought they were a great way to encompass all of the components of each competency. also for showing your clinical reasoning and soap notes etc. a bit hard to get written consent when one of your patients is a quadraplegic!

Oh, come on guys. Get a grip.

Have you ever had any teaching in regards to Ethics???
You are not permitted by law to disclose ANY information about patients. That's it.
Written consent can be given by the patient or by a patient representative. Who's got POA? Who is next of kin?

And as to other ways of proving competencies: you can always make up case scanarios, or get copies of your performance appraisals, reflective practice sheets, SWOT analysis', documentation audits, peer reviews, and whatever it is that you do .... The Physioboard's application guide document has even got reflection sheets in it, which you could use.
Bottom of the page: The Physiotherapy Board of New Zealand > Registration - Overseas Qualified Physiotherapists

You'll be fine. Don't get too uptight about it!!!
Good luck,
Fyzzio

Hi guys i need a little bit of advice.

After finally getting my reg through last week my next mission to obtain a visa. Does anyone have any tips on what visa to go for, how much and what time scales it may take to get?

Cheers in advance

Well done James on getting your reg through. I cant help you on the visa Just wondering how long it took to get the registration? I sent mine off a few weeks ago.

cheers

Paul

Hi Paul

the first step is having your payment taken from your account. If all your documents are ok they will take the money and then send you a letter saying its benn accepted for final Ax.

Then it took roughly 6 weeks to be accepted, i had to forward on a 2nd uni transcript tho then it was only a couple of weeks. Theyre quicker than you might think once they have all the right documents and have taken payment.

Good luck!

Hi guys,

Congrats to whoever has succesfully got the registration. I haven't started the process yet but have some questions before taking the plunge. I studied from India and I know that I will have to study in NZ before I can apply for registration. From previous threads it seems like I might lack in the cardioplumonary area for the competencies. My question is- If I plan to do a course in that area should it be in acute care or in exercise physiology and exs prescription ? I am currently working in the US and for physios they don't have any courses in acute cardiopulmonary PT.

thanks for all the valuable inputso far.

A BIG THANK-YOU to kempo1981 for emailing me templates and eg's of reflections -has been a great help and shed a lot of light in a process which I found very frustrating and complicated!! -but not as much now with every1s help and advice -GREAT!

Have been tackling my NZ reg now for a while and only came accross this site the other day -has been a God send!!

Hi,

I am just starting the process for my New Zealand registration. Would it be possible to ask for some help on the CV template. Would anyone who has gained resgistration be able to send me an example of what they have done? I am not sure how much information to put on there.

Also examples of reflection statement and CPD would be fab.

Thanks in advance.
Kat

hi all...
I am an Indian Physiotherapist having PR visa for australia...Can anyone guide me to get registered in NZ???How all the competencies got complited?I am having so much of confusion regarding the NZ registration...help me out plz..

Regards,
Reema

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Originally Posted by kempo1981

I would say good luck to anyone who has or thinks they can get NZ registration approved in 8 weeks. It takes 4 weeks (Minimum) to get through the initial checking process to ensure you have included all the required documents. Then they will send the application to the Approved Physio assessors (this takes a week) and this process will take another 4 weeks.... IF everything is in order and you do not need to supply anymore evidence you are looking at a minimum of 9 - 10 weeks for the assessment stages. This does not account for the time it takes for letters to be sent to you telling you what the latest update is on your application...... In addition this does not mean that you can practice, you then have to purchase an annual practicing cerificate which will take atleast another week. Hence from sending your application you are looking at minimum of 12 weeks IF everything is in order!!!!!

Anyway I have just had my application approved and am happy to help people along the way. I am willing to send you copies of the completed templates I supplied and an example of some of the reflections on practice which I supplied to the board. Just reply to this thread or contact me at [email protected] make sure you put PHYSIO BOARD HELP or something in the subject so I dont delete your e-mail.

Also dont want to put anyone off but the job situation here is very poor at the moment due to ACC taking physio away from the treatments that they provide so would recommend that you have a ob offer before you come here!!

Thanks and good luck

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hi...I am so much confused about the compitency for registration.Can you please send me the copies ofthe complited templates you supplied.I'll be thankful to you...
Regards,
Reema

HI ALL
I M A THIRD YR PHY STUDENT FRM INDIA . PLZ leT me know the procedures of settling down in New Zealand.i wl be very thankful to u all

Plz somebody guide this third year phy student from india about settling down in new zealand as a physio

Hi James,

I am just staring out on my registration, I would REALLY appreciate having a look at one or two of your templates to get an idea of what I'm supposed to be doing, the whole thing gives me a headache! But worth it ultimately I'm sure!

How did you get on? Were you successful?

Thanks,

Stacey

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Originally Posted by james_physio_365

I decided to phone the NZ board lastnight and ask them what should be included. The answer they gave me was to pretty much just refer to the uni programme, modules, placements etc in the first section. Then refer to transcript, validation of work references and CV (essentially mandatory documents we need to include). Then in the third section is where the additional evidence should be. SO basically from that the majority of the evidence should be in the last section only. That doesnt seem to match up with what someone else has put into a previous thread on here but its what im going to go with otherwise im going to have lots more than 3-5 pieces of evidence for each competency.

I hope that makes sense and helps.

James

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Hi :-)
In the middle of registration and confused with regards to the competency templates! What do you mean by transcript and mandatory documents in the 2nd section? Also what types of "additiona evidence" did you include?
Many thanks,
Polly

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Originally Posted by salthill01

Hi everyone,

I have just gained registration in New Zealand last week. The whole process from sending off my application to getting approval took 8 weeks. The new forms make it a lot easier for both the applying physiotherapist and the Registration official in New Zealand. The guidelines are very helpful as well. I am planning on going to New Zealand in June of this year. If anyone has any questions about the registration process or any queries please dont hesitate to ask and i will respond to you!! It is easier than people think if you dont get too bogged down and if you use the templates accordingly.

All the best
Kevin

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Kevin, congrats Im very jealous!!
Im so confused about the competency layout.....do we have to evidence each component of each competence e.g. 1.1, 1.2 etc and write reflective statements for each of these or is this too indepth and are we just required to provide evidence of meeting the competency as a whole e.g. competency 1. Analyse and discuss the biomedical, behavioural and social science bases of physiotherapy and integrate the bases into practice.
Please help!
Elaine

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Originally Posted by k80mac85

A BIG THANK-YOU to kempo1981 for emailing me templates and eg's of reflections -has been a great help and shed a lot of light in a process which I found very frustrating and complicated!! -but not as much now with every1s help and advice -GREAT!

Have been tackling my NZ reg now for a while and only came accross this site the other day -has been a God send!!

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Hi - This has been a great thread and very helpful. I have been working on my application since January. I am now stuck re the competencies and wonder if I am doing them correctly. Would anyone be kind enough to share a few of their templates and examples of reflections etc.. It would be much appreciated. I.e. Template 15. Thanks much Jonesy