Limited Registration Australia

[cformby]

Sorry for yet another question...

To apply for limited registration do you still need to complete all the exams that were compulsory under the ols registration system?
Thanks
Claire

[ljrobbob]

Sorry for yet another question...

To apply for limited registration do you still need to complete all the exams that were compulsory under the ols registration system?
Thanks
Claire

No you dont.
read the registration forms........

[mpraveen_p]

hello , am praveen (physio) from india. i would like to do masters either australia or newzealand . i don know which country to choose...actually my desire is want to study for 1 -2 year followed by work as a physio for 1-2 year with pay....can u gide me which country favours with this and mail it to me [email protected]. expecting ur reply.praveen

[physioemma]

Hi. This thread is VERY useful! I have a couple of questions if anyone can help...

Firstly, does anyone have experience of or know if it is possible to get Limited Registration or Full Registration with a UK Accelerated Masters Degree (2 yrs)? I do have clinical experience (3 yrs)?

Secondly, I'm a bit confused about the visa process - do you have to apply for a visa separately to applying for the registration? And if so, does anyone know how it works if you are going to Aus with your family ie my husband will be sponsored by his company - can I apply for registration on a dependant/spouse visa??

Thanks for any help!!

Emma

[Ellen1]

hiya

I have just graduated from my MSc (pre-reg) physiotherapy in Jan 2011 and have been offered a job working in S.australia for a private practice. I really want to go and make a good start to my career. I have been looking at all the options and because I don't have over 1 years experience it would appear I cannot apply for a permanent work visa? My other option is to do what many do and apply for the working holiday visa and then try register with the limited registratioin in the public interest. I would hope my partner would come out with me but as he works in the wine industry and not in trade, he doesnt qualify for the work visa either so wed both have to go out on the WHV.The only problem is,with the WHV you have to change jobs every 6 months, which doesnt offer the best job security and we want to make a go of it out there for more than 6 months to a year. Has anyone got any advice or alternative routs I could take. Is there potential to extend the 6 months on a holiday working visa if an employer makes an input?

any advice or information would be really appriciated, also, which should I should apply for first...my registration or the visa?

thanks ellen :-)

[Suzanne3110]

Hi everyone


All the information you have provided on this thread is so helpful but I was wondering if you had anymore advice with regard to working in Western Australia as they do not accept the limited registration option.

I hope to move there in Sept 11 as my boyfriend has been offered a permanent job in construction in Perth and the company are willing to sponsor him so he is sorted! I, on the other hand am not!

If anyone has any information about going through the full registration experience I would be most grateful. I am particularly concerned with what happens after you sit your exams.....there is very little information about the practical exams and how that aspect works (I know there is a neuro exam and my only experience has been a 5 week placement when I was a student).


Thanks for your time

Suz

[sam5986]

Hi all,

I have been trying to get an offer of employment for a while now for 'limited registration'. I have emailed and spoken to quite a few agencies but they all seem to be quite negative and say that i would be better to gain full registration or go via NZ. This thread has made me feel more positive but does anyone have advice or has recently had an offer of employment.

Cheers guys

Sam

[AoifeL]

Hi Sam
As someone currently in Australia pursuing limited reg in the public interest I can testify to it being a royal pain the backside!! I am regretting not going down the NZ reg path so much....which is what all the agencies told me to do when I was in your situation before I came over here!! SO I think I probably should have listened to them.
However there are plenty of employment opportunities over here especially in rural areas but it's convincing the employers that it's worth employing you with limited reg that's the hard part. Reed Recruitment recently contacted me with a limited reg job if you wanted to try them.
Hope this helps,
Aoife

[Catarina]

Hi guys!
I want to move to australia in january 2012.
I work for 5 years and i have a 4 year graduation in physiotherapy, a post graduation in physiotherapy in sports and a master in physiotherapy sciences, i would like to go first with a limited registration for after aply for assessent of equivalence of qualification. I will take all my documentation translated. I would like help in how to get a sponsor in wollongong from january on to be able to aply for limited registration first.
Thanks

[AoifeL]

Hi Catarina
Have you considered registering via New Zealand instead? If you get registered there you can gain full registration in Australia from that. I believe the process for equivalence assessment is a difficult one and they ask for alot of detail from your university. You will also have to prove your fluency in English.
Aoife

[Catarina]

Hi AoifeL!
I´m not considering New Zeland because and will move to australia with my boyfriend and he already has a job in wollongong. Is it being too hard for you there. With good english and all the programatic contents of my 4 year study do you think its still too hard?
Thanks

[AoifeL]

Hi Catarina
I think you've misunderstood me. You can in theory apply for registration in New Zealand but that does not necessarily mean you work there. By gaining registration there you can then apply to Australia and it is a much simpler process than the one you're doing. You should read some of the other threads in this section of "Working In Australia" where they discuss New Zealand registration in more detail. Hope this helps.
Good luck
Aoife

[physioemma]

Hi Catarina

Just to let you know, I asked the APC about equivalence of qualification and they said that a UK degree would NOT be granted equivalence of qualification. You can ask them about your specific degree. Also, Limited Reg is apparently being phased out in about 3 months' time, and would only be an option still if there is a 'natural disaster' in Aus and a severe shortage of physios...

(I think I might have already emailed you this info?!)

Gd luck

Emma

Hi guys!
I want to move to australia in january 2012.
I work for 5 years and i have a 4 year graduation in physiotherapy, a post graduation in physiotherapy in sports and a master in physiotherapy sciences, i would like to go first with a limited registration for after aply for assessent of equivalence of qualification. I will take all my documentation translated. I would like help in how to get a sponsor in wollongong from january on to be able to aply for limited registration first.
Thanks

[mcoyne84]

Hi
Very helpful thread!!i am just beginning looking into doing physio in australia or NZ but dont knw where to start looking!!!is there any helpful sites u could direct me too about getting registared especially limited reg which i think is the route i want to take??

Cheers
Mairead

[Fyzzio]

Hi Aoife,
sounds good, but is not quite as easy.
1) I heard that the European mainland degrees have a hard time to be accepted in NZ. I believe, only the Dutch one stands a chance. But not 100% sure.
2) You also need to do a language test for NZ or have worked in an English speaking environment (see their registration form)
3) The registration form has a tick box, where you have to confirm (and you have to sign this!) that you will work in NZ
3) To apply for TTMA, you have to apply and pay for an Annual Practicing Certificate in NZ

And @ Catarina: Have you got a quote for the translations yet? I have met a Physio recently who paid NZ$ 4000,- just to get her curriculum and transcript translated!!!!!! And that was for a Bachelor degree.

I wonder what happens, if you sign their form, pay for and get the APC and then head off to Australia. Has anyone done this? Will this be chased?

[AoifeL]

Hi Fyzzio
You obviously have greater knowledge of the NZ system than me and it was in fact some of your posts in other threads that put me off the registration through NZ as I wasn't comfortable signing the form to say I would be seeking work in NZ. As a result I decided to pursue limited registration. The same language requirements are outlined in the Australian registration form as well. However I do know of several physios here in Aus that have gained reg via the TTMA though they are all Irish or UK trained.

It's unfortunate it is such a difficult process as most of our qualifications are very similar but I understand you have to protect your profession and everyone has to be treated equally.

Thanks for your informative post
Aoife

[rosyjcw]

Hi all. This has been a really useful thread for the limited registration process as its a bit of a minefield!I'm a band 6 physio currently working in London and hoping to work in Australia (ideally Melbourne) on a working holiday visa via limited registration in the public interest. I wondered if anyone who has done this had any tips on when/where to look for jobs. Im hoping to be there this Oct/Nov and wasn't sure when I need to start looking. I notice that they use 'grades' to rate experience in job adverts and I wondered if anyone knew which australian grade is equivalent to which UK band...any info much appreciated!

rosy

[cformby]

I didn't have any luck getting limited registration sorted. I am living in Melbourne though and there's so many physios around here that it just doesn't make sense for employers to really offer it as an option (particularly if you're coming on a working holiday visa so can only work for a max of 6 months with one employer).

Once you're registered it's quite easy to find work (I went the NZ route, tedious and a little expensive but definitely worth it), most of the locum work is in the private sector. Nursing homes are always looking for people and pay pretty well and private practices pay VERY well compared to the NHS so even workign a few days a week can be enough if you're ata good one. I've worked in a few places (private practice, nursing homes, on site workers) and am about to start working for a public hospital. The public hospital jobs don't come up too frequently but they are about. The biggest ones are The Alfred (who normally do all their own advertising and recruitment) and St Vincents (who normally get recruitment agents to fill their locum posts). I worked as a band 6 for a few years in London and am paid as a grade 2 over here. Hope this helps, if you want any more specific info just ask!

[rosyjcw]

hi cformby..thanks so much for taking the time to answer..really useful info. congratulations on making it over there! i had been wondering how employers would view physios coming over on limited registration especailly with the supervision and paperwork that theyd need to do..but id seen a few posts from people saying there was work and the ACP had said there was a shortage of phsyios so i was hopeful! but good to get an idea of the current climate from someone who's there. how long ago did you do the nz registration...i looked into that but saw on the application form that there's a section on intention to practice in nz..did you spend anytime working there or did you head straight to australia? i suppose if you go through that route you need working holiday visas for both australia and nz?

thanks

[cformby]

I began getting my registration about this time last year and it eventually arrived in November! I can't blame the NZ board entirely though. At first I had it returned to me as I didn't have enough evidence for the neuro part of the application (make sure your evidence fits the EXACT criteria, I had been working as a band 6 neuro physio for over a year but part of my evidence didn't fit the criteria, although it showed what I can do it didn't show that i was at the level of a new graduate - when I spoke to the board they said despite me proving I was above the leve of a new graduate I had to prove I was at that level instead). I then resent the form but as a new tax year had started the form had changed (by one tick box) so i had to go back to have a lawyer sign the new copy etc and repost it (although I did get this done in Ecuador while travellinng adn the Ecuadorian post lost it, then the Colombian post had the same problem and bad luck so did the Guatemalan post so my Mexican version eventually arrived 3 months later!). Once all the evidence was received it was a pretty easy process.

Under the visa part I wrote on the form that I would be submitting an application for a working holiday visa once i had registration (an Aussie recruitment consultant advised me this was acceptable) and as for working in NZ I plan to head over there for a couple of months for the ski season so I wasn't really lying. There's definitely a few physios over here that have no intention of ever going to work there though adn they haven't had any problems. My advice would be to send the application sooner rather than later before the loop hole is closed if you don't actually plan to work there (but of course you will be planning to work there and wont be providing false information right? )

I headed straight to Aus and don't have any sort of NZ visa yet but will probably be getting one over the next couple of weeks.

In short, it can be a lengthy process but it's quicker than the Aussie exams, it is expensive (NZ application fee, NZ registration fee, NZ certificate fee, AUssie application fee, Aussie registrtaion fee, Aussie personal indemnity insurance, the list goes on....) IF you were just thinking of coming here for a couple of months to supplement your income while travelling, don't bother. You'll spend more than you'll earn but if you want to work it's a great place. The wages are much better (but the cost of living is high), the Aussies are great and it's a really good environment to work in.

Hope this helps. Let me know if there's anything else you need help with.

[rosyjcw]

hello, ok i think i'm going to go down the nzroute! ive been going through all the application info and i'm in the process of contacting my uni to get the info i need from them about curriculum etc..theres a section on confirmation of supervised practiced and i wonderd if you sent copies of your placement booklets or if you just got your uni to write a statement about what was covered? also..i didnt actually do a respiratory placement at uni and although i did a junior rotation and im oncall..given what you said about proving youre at newly qualified level i was worried this might be a bit of a problem!

thanks again for your help

[cformby]

My uni syallubus covered my placements in sufficient detail so I didn't send any of my placement books (unless I was using them as supporting evidence). By gaining your degree it means that you've covered all the areas of supervised practice outlined in your course syllabus.

I'm sure you'll be fine with the respiratory aspect. Remember NZ do do a 4 year degree so their respiratory modules will be a little more in depth than ours and from memory nothing done as a junior will mean that your appriasals wont cover the NZ competencies. I'd spent quite a while working as a band 6 in neuro before applying so think that's more what the problem was. I used my oncall competenices and junior experience to fulfil the respiratory part of the NZ competeny and had no problems there whatsoever.

Let me know if you get stuck on anyting else. Probably a good idea to get someone who isn't a physio to check over all of your stuff (I got my mum to do mine), things you think are obvious aren't always and it takes someone who doesn't know what you're talking about to point it sometimes.

[rosyjcw]

great, thanks- that sounds hopeful! ive requested the info from my uni and im currently trying to gather info for the compencies. i wasnt sure exactly the format this should take - i wondered if i need to refer to each competency component separately (eg 2.1, 2.2 etc) or just find stuff that best evidences the competency as a whole (eg competency 2). Also, for rows two and three, when it says 'refer to..' did you just list/bullet point the pieces of evidene or do you need to describe in any way examples of what you've done. i dont know if youd be willing to share an example of one of your competency sheets to get an idea of the format that would be really useful.

thanks rosy

[cformby]

I referred to each competency componemt separately

e.g 2.2 My university course syallbus (page 23) demonstrates........ Further evidence an also be found in my clinical placement booklet (level 3 page 7)

I don't think you have to refer to them all individually but I thought it was worth the extra effort as the board are so strict I didn't want them to return my application for something that i could have done quite easily.

I described each item for rows 2 and 3, again not sure if you need to do this but better to not ahve it returned.

I haven't got a copy of my competency sheets here with me sorry but if you follow the format they're pretty easy to complete, they just take a long, long time (I think mine took about 20 hours to have it all done properly and I still had it returned to me needing more info).

[rudy_4588]

Hi I am a newly qualified physiotherapist and I would like to embark on my physiotherapy career in Australia. Is this realistically viable for a new graduate? Previous posts have suggested that in actual fact the application process to join the APC is catered more towards new graduates, does anyone know if this is still the case? Does anyone have experience of completing the APC written and practical examination? My partner is from Australia and I am considering relocation.

Any help would be much appreciated,

Rudy