Unhappy about Canada's PNE (physiotherapy national exam)???

[kiwican]

I would like to add my experiences to the dozens of other complaints out there about Canada's physiotherapy national exam (the practical component), especially for foreign trained physios. It is fundamentally unfair on many levels:
1. All recent Canadian graduates are groomed for this exam. This makes it very hard for foreign-trained therapists to compete.
2. The pass rate for the June 2, 2001 exam was as follows: 88% of Canadian grads passed, 44% of foreign trained graduates passed!! (many of these 44% were writing for the 2nd or 3rd time)
3. You can receive grades far above the pass mark cut-off yet still fail the exam.
4. The PNE format does not allow credit for correct responses that are absent from their standardized answer checklist
5. The following is a quote from physiotherapy Canada 1993: "The OSCE is credible as a test of clinical competence but reliability is perhaps lower than would be optimal for a licensure examination. Combining an OSCE with a multiple choice exam may have desirable effects on student learning and have acceptable reliability levels."
6. How can the Alliance ensure standardization of performance of the actors, consistancy of examiners and consistancy of scoring in a country as large as Canada, where every actor, examiner, examiner trainer, marker and candidate has his/her own biases, knowledge base, and personal interpretation.
7.The basis for many of the questions reflect inappropriate or unacceptable clinical practice because they expect the candidate to perform evaluations or treatments completely out of context........
I have expanded these points in a 17 page document that I have sent to the College of Physical Therapists of BC and to the Office of the Ombudsman (check out their website for an online complaint form), however I can no longer offer it online. Here's to change!!!!! MN


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[Canuck Physio]

Wow, Hello everyone.

I am a Canadian in the UK. Learning Physio.

I am just going to put this out there in case anyone every comes along this.

I am going to be writing the 2 components of the exam come March-August of 2009.

So if anyone wants to study during those times in Vancouver, there you go.

And to everyone else all around the world struggling, thanks for sharing and making the efforts, and I can share everyones feelings of anxiety!

[ryanjonturn]

Hi
I am a UK qualified PT did the written exam. The exam was so random it did not encompass a quarter of physiotherapy, and I am very unset and disheartened with physiotherapy governing from the Alliance.

I took the Alliance course they offered before the exam, and it was the biggest waste of time. Just more money down the drain and into their pockets.

It was great to have sample questions given, however not able to be allowed to take these back was unfair.

Everyone has done multiple choice questions in some time, however this 'best possible answer' business is awful. People who are good PT and know their stuff can get tripped up with these. Being from the UK we are not prepped for these types of questions and I know Canadian grads are, which makes the whole process unfair.

The Alliance need to really look into helping out internationally trained students more instead of scaring them all away.

[Canuck Physio]

Latest NEWS: Effective January 1, 2008

the Canadian Alliance of Physiotherapy Regulators will implement new Credentialing Standards.
Applications received up to and including December 31, 2007 will be assessed based on the current Credentialing Standards.
All applications received beginning January 1, 2008 will be assessed under the new Credentialing Standards.

The Alliance has been involved in the business of credential review since 1992.
Three comprehensive reviews and studies - Best Practices I (1995), Best Practices II (1997) and Best Practices III (2002) have shaped the program over the last 12 years.

Each study has evaluated The Alliance’s process of assessing the education and
qualifications of internationally educated physiotherapists, with a view to improving
access within a framework set by the standards of professional practice.
The fourth study - Best Practices IV – was completed in 2007 and was essentially an evaluation of the credentialing program including such features as the program goals, objectives, standards, procedures, infrastructures and service delivery.
The new Credentialing Standards that will be implemented in 2008 are based upon
the recommendations of the Best Practices IV study.

[yardz9]

Are you stressed about Canada's Physiotherapy Competency Exam?

PT Health recognizes this anxiety and offers a PREP COURSE for the practical component of the PCE.

I am an instructor for the Prep Course developed by PT Health to prepare non-Canadian-educated graduates for the clinical component of the PCE. I am aware that the success rate for foreign trained physiotherapists is much lower than Canadian-educated graduates, seeing as Canadian students are trained to be successful on the PCE throughout their academic curriculum. If you would like to get an appreciation for what the PCE is like, the mock exam provides you with a similar experience, in regards to the content, stresses and expectations of the actual practical exam. Candidates receive individual feedback on their strengths and weaknesses, along with suggestions for areas of improvement.

For more information please visit this website: PT Health Physiotherapy

[noushin]

Hi
I am very much interested in Prep course but it looks like there is no registration available now please let me know if any registration will be start for Nov. exam
Thanks

[noushin]

Hi
If you have those document would you send it to me as well.
my e-mail is : [email protected]
Thanks

[noushin]

I am practicing for practical exam for Nov if any body interested in joining me very welcome
I am in Toronto

[yardz9]

Hi Noushin here is the link to the Prep Course registration:

::PT Health Website::

The course will be run in October 2008, which is intended to train Physiotherapist candidates for the November 2008 practical component of the PCE.

Regards, DY

[rkennedy]

Wow, Hello everyone.

I am a Canadian in the UK. Learning Physio.

I am just going to put this out there in case anyone every comes along this.

I am going to be writing the 2 components of the exam come March-August of 2009.

So if anyone wants to study during those times in Vancouver, there you go.

And to everyone else all around the world struggling, thanks for sharing and making the efforts, and I can share everyones feelings of anxiety!

I am going to be writing my PCE in September 08 and the Practical (hopefully) in November 08, if you are around town before then and in the study mode maybe we could work something out!

[priya prasad]

hi
i am a new member and i am planning to migrate to Toronto very soon could u pls help me g the credentialling and PCE .I am from India .could u tel what documents are required for credentialling and what books to study for PCE

[Madjamian]

Hi I read your post nad I really want to read your 17 pages document. Please send it to my e-mail [email protected]

Thank you.

[liposuctionguide]

I think, In Canada, physiotherapists also have better job options and more opportunities to work with the latest technology and equipment in a variety of settings. This is an advantage to both the physiotherapist and to the patient. Canadian organizations provide the latest training so we can keep developing our skills.

[prabhakarglv]

Hi Kiwican,

Life is just frustrating coz i flunked the clinical component 3rd time. You are ryt in all aspects and it's clueless on what parameters the PNE people judge our clinical skills just creating a stress by keeping those puppet actors/actresses where they want to decide our life with their actions. The written component is already tested our clinical reasoning and which is good enough to judge our knowledge based clinical skills, ethics and safety guidelines. I did my Masters in Sports Physio from India and I came here with big aspirations to this country with my family but now it's a bizzare future how should I've to carry on. I mean I worked here for almost 2 years under supervision after clearing my written component and during this period I just abide to the safety guide lines instructed by the board. I developed enough case load with good reputation in my clinical skills and now just this final step playing with not only my life but with my family too. Now I need to wait until how these PNE PEOPLE WILL DECIDE MY FATE!!!?

Anyhow I thank you n really appreciate you to express your feelings with the PNE Bossess. I would appreciate if you can send me that 16 page attachment to my email ID "[email protected]". Thank you once again.

Regards,

Pubby.

I would like to add my experiences to the dozens of other complaints out there about Canada's physiotherapy national exam (the practical component), especially for foreign trained physios. It is fundamentally unfair on many levels:
1. All recent Canadian graduates are groomed for this exam. This makes it very hard for foreign-trained therapists to compete.
2. The pass rate for the June 2, 2001 exam was as follows: 88% of Canadian grads passed, 44% of foreign trained graduates passed!! (many of these 44% were writing for the 2nd or 3rd time)
3. You can receive grades far above the pass mark cut-off yet still fail the exam.
4. The PNE format does not allow credit for correct responses that are absent from their standardized answer checklist
5. The following is a quote from physiotherapy Canada 1993: "The OSCE is credible as a test of clinical competence but reliability is perhaps lower than would be optimal for a licensure examination. Combining an OSCE with a multiple choice exam may have desirable effects on student learning and have acceptable reliability levels."
6. How can the Alliance ensure standardization of performance of the actors, consistancy of examiners and consistancy of scoring in a country as large as Canada, where every actor, examiner, examiner trainer, marker and candidate has his/her own biases, knowledge base, and personal interpretation.
7.The basis for many of the questions reflect inappropriate or unacceptable clinical practice because they expect the candidate to perform evaluations or treatments completely out of context........
I have expanded these points in a 17 page document that I have sent to the College of Physical Therapists of BC and to the Office of the Ombudsman (check out their website for an online complaint form), however I can no longer offer it online. Here's to change!!!!! MN

[abu_udai]

Hi MAN,

Don't worry man you will do it this time and i think they will allow you to do it again.
Be strong man and u will succeed.
But really i want to see your 17 page document, so please send it to me on my address below:

[email protected]

Thanks