well eraf... i was juz being cautious as the metal seems slightly palpate-able..so under water technique was the best way to be safe ( i thought)...but it turn out to be ! neway... i would like to ask- if anyone knows what is the structure involved -if pain starts on the hip -lateral aspect- radiating sometimes towards the upper part of groin? could it be gleutues medius?iliac- psoas? well i tried doing tests on g.med/ iliac-psoas/ t.f.l... but it turn out to be negative.... anyone knows? the pain is more like pulling- so i thought it must be a tight soft tissue- but the patient is very active in sports- he does his gym-foot ball player--and also does yoga..- but i did found out he has hamstring tightness with lower back muscles tightness.... so what do yu guys think?