Sciatic scoliosis

[BillOst]

PB

Maybe hugging was a poor translation, the doctor is French and he described it as "wrapping around". I have always found this a useful guide when dealing with people who have chronic musculoskeletal syndromes. I look forward to our discussion, maybe I need to read up on Fryettes Laws if we are going deep into lumbar mechanics :-)

Best wishes

BillOst

[alophysio]

Hi,

To shed some light on this thread, sometimes the body shifts away from an injury. Brian Edwards used his system of combined movement examination to determine whether something was a "stretch" pattern of pain or "compression" pattern of pain.

For example, if there is a posterolateral disc bulge to the right, then often the patient will list to the right (if it is possible). The theory is that flexion and lateral flexion left will "stretch" the right posterolateral region of the segment and further exacerbate the disc pain.

The opposite example would be a facet joint that gets caught on a meniscoid - e.g. the right facet joint at L4/5. It is often called "stuck in flexion". In this case, the problem and pain is in the lower right L/S but the patient will list to the left because the facet joint n the right cannot close. A simple manipulation of the joint usually puts things right again.

As for "hugging" the injury - i agree to a certain extent. The body will act to protect an injury. After you have felt many normal bodies and many dysfunctional bodies, it becomes something that you can feel. I understand the concept of feeling this tension but i find it difficult to teach others what i am feeling. I am more intuitive than anything else so it is difficult to teach someone what to feel...

I hope this helps!

[JAW]

To quickly reply. I have worked in this area for nearly 25 years, but never bother to publish. I find many of the gross generalisations made about "when this happens, this will result.." rather an insult to individuality. In my experience there are rarely easy patterns of when this bulges that happens. I believe it is more about always staying fresh to each person when they come for an opinion, and avoiding putting people into convenient boxes. I believe this has been the downfall of much of modern medicine.
You write "The body will act to protect an injury. After you have felt many normal bodies and many dysfunctional bodies, it becomes something that you can feel. I understand the concept of feeling this tension but i find it difficult to teach others what i am feeling. I am more intuitive than anything else so it is difficult to teach someone what to feel..."

It is our true self that protects our self. Our body is our subconscious mind in action. So to refer to the body, is to seperate body and mind. We protect ourself, being safe is a fundamental. We support an injury site as a fairly low level instinct to prevent further damage. We do this on an emotional level as well, with relationships, and more.

Normal bodies and dysfunctional bodies?
Is there such a thing?
At some level we are all dysfunctional, again this is about developing outward interest and curiousity and awareness of the natural organic path and flow of integrated human movement.

If anyone would like to discover more about 'feeling and sensing', then maybe trot along to Reading in Berkshire and I will introduce you to some Feldenkrais, NLP, Hypnosis, and coaching. Alternately I produce audio lessons you can work with at home.
When I have presented to Physiotherapists and others at conference, or workshops, they are frequently amazed at what they discover about their own body. I will put up a couple of introductory and diploma courses soon