Welcome to the Online Physio Forum.
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Forum Member Array
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Country
    Flag of United Kingdom
    Current Location
    Somewhere in cyberspace
    Member Type
    General Public
    View Full Profile
    Posts
    5
    Thanks given to others
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: unexplained calf injury. please help!!!!

    yea for a while was sure it was the back
    i had an Wikipedia reference-linkMRI done on the back and it showed i have a slightly narrow spinal cord and i disc buldge in the lower back. at first i was told this was what was causing it but when i saw the specialist consultant about it he said it wasnt causing the injurys so have given up on it being a back injury. not to sure whether should go and get a second opinion on that but he was a specialist.

    have had nerve conduction studies which were all fine
    and a muscle biopsy which was fine which i guess rules out a nerve problem and a muscle problem.


  2. #2
    Forum Member Array
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Country
    Flag of South Africa
    Current Location
    USA
    Member Type
    Physiotherapist
    View Full Profile
    Posts
    33
    Thanks given to others
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    38

    Re: unexplained calf injury. please help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by winners View Post
    yea for a while was sure it was the back
    i had an MRI done on the back and it showed i have a slightly narrow spinal cord and i disc buldge in the lower back. at first i was told this was what was causing it but when i saw the specialist consultant about it he said it wasnt causing the injurys so have given up on it being a back injury. not to sure whether should go and get a second opinion on that but he was a specialist.

    have had nerve conduction studies which were all fine
    and a muscle biopsy which was fine which i guess rules out a nerve problem and a muscle problem.
    My first inclination when reading your original post was that it was referred pain from the back and with your symptoms of imbalance in the morning a possible cauda equina syndrome. Your Wikipedia reference-linkMRI results appear to have ruled that out though.

    Just because one specialist has ruled out the back as the cause of the symptoms doesn't mean it isn't coming from the back. Also a negative nerve conduction test doesn't necessarily rule out a "nerve problem". Electrodiagnostic testing does not assess the smaller nerve fibers which are typically responsible for pain transmission.

    You mentioned in your original post that you use "insoles". It amazes me that arch supports are prescribed as a solution for overpronation because the arch is not a weight bearing structure. Posted orthotics or wedges on the heel and/or forefoot would be the better solution because this addresses the actual cause of the foot overpronating in most cases.

    cptnsausage refers to this in more detail in an answer on an earlier thread:
    Just as a quick additional to this - A lot of the time Flat feet are indeed the cause of such problems and I've found certainly that it is misdiagnosed (as fallen arches) and mismanaged in the vast majority of cases. Most Flat feet problems are not fallen arches but are simply due to an everted calcaneous an as such have the secondary effect of causing the longitudinal arch of the foot to disappear. Now Knowing that I find it scary that for almost every flatfoot problem is simply to prescribe arch supports - unless u happen to be uber flexible then the arch supports will simply cause pain and in some extreme cases can compound the problem further and cause damage - this is because a simple arch support in the case of an everted calcaneous will recreate your arch but will do absolutely nothing for the heel problem, which means your foot is being twisted further out of alignment (forefoot will end up in excess suppination with the calcaneous still everted = pain and damage)

    Now taking that into account the answer is quite simple. I believe that in your case you would benefit from a pair of insoles with medial wedges added to the heel (3/4 length with MINIMAL arch support and probs about 10-15 degrees of medial wedging at the heels) this will essentially treat the cause and not the symptom. I not only speak as an orthotist who see's this just about every day but also as a patient! - my doctor tried for years to fix me flat feet with arch supports etc but all it did was cause pain and like yourself i found that particularly when I was active i got pain in my shins (sometimes my knees as well - Im Very flat footed lol) - After i finished my degree and started working i made myself a pair of insoles similar to what I've suggested for you and the pain has pretty much disappeared - even during sports etc. Thats just my suggestion based on the info you have given us but I'd strongly reccomend as others have that you get a full assessment first - the fast way to tell if u have everted calcaneous' is to stand straight with your back to a mirror - if the line of the back of your foot where the achilles tendon runs splays outwards at your heel then its a positive test and the problem is definitely not a fallen arch and is an everted calcaneous.

    I agree with whats been said here 100% that you need to treat the biomechanical problem and not just try to get rid of the pain, and the above is how I'd go about it as an Orthotist but i know a vast number of podiatrists who treat numerous patients using the same rationalle with great success so it might be worth giving it a try in your case.

    hope that maybe gives u another option to explore - although theres not a lot of literature on this particular subject but I will be happy to answer any questions you have




 
Back to top