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    KiwiDPT
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    Re: Strengthening VMO / Preventing dislocating knees

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    Sorry to hear about all your issues. Isolated VMO training has been shown to not be possible according to recent research. I will try and find the articles. I have them in the pile upstairs somewhere. Sometimes I wish physicians would leave the rehabilitation to those who actually studied it for several years, and not a few hours (Sorry off my soap box now). General quadriceps strengthening is usually performed. For example quadsetting, straight leg raises etc. There are a myriad of them.
    Part of the problem with multiple dislocations is the loss of or laxity of medial restraints that help hold the patella centered. The quadriceps muscles have a general lateral pull and without medial restraints it is hard to stop lateral dislocation.
    One of the key things I do with pts is teach them how to control the knee during activities. A knee that collapses inwards under load can increase the chances of lateral dislocation. I am sure to have pts learn motor control, look at the hip for weak hip muscles causing the femur to internally rotate, and also at the ankle for excessive pronation, which all can contribute to medial collapse.

    Hope that helps
    KiwiDPT


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    Re: Strengthening VMO / Preventing dislocating knees

    Hi Kiwi, thanks for the quick reply.

    So if I understand correctly, this notion of strengthening the VMO to prevent lateral dislocations is incorrect? And that I should try to find a physiotherapist rather than even attempt to build up the muscles on my own?


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    Re: Strengthening VMO / Preventing dislocating knees

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    The VMO can be strengthened it can not be strengthened in isolation as once thought. I would go to a physio and have them check you out to make sure that the other things I mentioned, (weak hips allowing femoral internal rotation, excessive ankle pronation, or poor motor control causing incorrect biomechanics) are not occurring. If any these other things are present solely strengthening the quads is like swimming up hill. With as many dislocations as you have had I would suspect that there would be significant medial restraint laxity, and addressing all possible contributors will be required for an possible benefit. The next step would probably be a knee brace with a firm lateral "J" support to externally control the patella. Not sure on the success of those braces but worth a shot if the fixing the other factors fails.

    Let me know if I can help with anything else
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    Re: Strengthening VMO / Preventing dislocating knees

    I am a chronic dislocator so I have some help for you in terms of what works for me. I have dislocated my patella on my right knee 4 times and my left twice. I started in 1998 when I was 18 and my last was May of 2003. After my last dislocation I said enough with that. I was extremely active and just couldn't say no to a pick up basketball game or any other sport for that matter but realized the way things were that it was too risky to do it again. Well around 2005 I got tired of being on the sidelines so I bought braces. One for the left and one for the right. What the previous DPT said on here was a J brace and I think that is what I have. You velcro it around your leg and there is an additional part of the brace that you then pull from the outside up and over the patella that velcros to the rest of the brace. Underneath that part that you pull up and over is a horseshoe looking pad that when pulled over the patella serves to give external support. So the good thing is that I have not dislocated since. Now I know my limits. I stay on the outside during basketball games and shoot from the perimeter. I play defense to a degree but I know to let a guy past me if I get beat laterally. I basically stay restricted to sand volleyball and softball (well, and golf). But no dislocations which is greatness.

    Problem is: after you dislocate as much I have, other problems show up later. I had a partial tear in my Wikipedia reference-linkmeniscus that wasn't even noticable in activity. When the knee becomes structually unstable, other things get jacked up. Well I was wearing my brace and rounded third in the spring of 2007 when I blew out my medial and lateral meniscus. Since had surgery to trim those out, had microfracture surgery on the backside of the patella to promote resurfacing because they had to smooth the cartilage there (every time you dislocate it jacks up the cartilage as the knee cap rides up and over the groove and then back in), and did a lateral release to help the dislocation because the doc said what the heck, we are in there already.

    Can't really run on pavement anymore, but I can still play softball (shortstop) and sand volleyball. The eliptical is my friend.

    My advice is to take it easy. I know you are young and if you are like me just love to be active. There are bigger pictures to consider. Every time you dislocate you increase the problems you will have later in life. I am now 28 and I will tell you that later in life is already upon me Get the braces. I know some doctors will say they don't work. I can't give you guarantees, only what I have experienced in terms of no dislocations after thousands of hours of sports with them on. My braces look like the ones on this site (I can't show you this because I don't have enough posts so email me if you want a picture of what I use)

    I won't ever say to not play sports but be selective. Once you dislocate you are exponentially more ept to do it again and again. The braces worked for me so there is that too. My doc also said to take glucosamine. He mentioned that all of the other stuff is junk in terms of it is not shown to actually get to the cartilage in the knee. Glucosamine does and he is a big proponent of it. He was Dallas' doctor of the year in 2004 or 5 or something and a stand up guy so I believe him. Good luck!



 
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