left buttock pain radiating to mid back

[treat]

SIJ dysfunction can cause pain upon lying down (rolling around in bed), sitting to standing, sitting for prolonged periods, or standing for prolonged peroids. If the SIJ is not functioning properly, the altered biomechanics can cause compensatory patterns above and below the lesion? (muscle tightness being one of them). Why was an X ray not taken? If anything sinister were underlying would it not be wise take one?

SIJ pain can be ruled out through the following; motion palpation, static palpation, (difference in movement, oedema findings) history findings with the above clues.

Also does the patient have a short leg? Anatomical or Functional. Flat feet? Also check the functionn of the rest of joints in the spine.

Neurological testing can produce no postive signs even when a disc lesion is present.

[jacinta]

hi treat, hi aussiePhysio

thank you so much for your information.
sorry for late reply .

treat,
his limbs are of equal length, his shoes were assess previously.
I found that his shoes had got sufficient arch support for his flat foot.

AussiePhysio,
I have to agree with the credit point that u had given to McKenzie.
this gentleman is now having very mild pain occasionally after practicing
McKenzie for 2/52.

he is eager to go back to soccer. I suggested mild & non-contact exercises for
another 1/12 as an observational period.
Planning to put him on low load high reps work-out after that.
Is there any standard time frame for this sportman to return to soccer?

[AussiePhysio]

Jacinta,

My personal thoughts are that with low back pain, return to sport is not as predictable as with a tendon injury or ligament injury. The way his symptoms progress are far more important than a time frame.

let's keep in the mckenzie model for a moment if that is helping:
If his problem as truly a posterior derangment and Extension in lying helped initially, but is no longer helping, or his improvement has hit a plateau, you might need to progress the force, (Extension in lying with overpressure - either therapist generated or patient generated, or add mobilisations (Mckenzie mobs work a treat).

the phases of treatment for a derangment in Mckenzie is 1. reduce derangement and abolish symptoms, 2. maintain reduction, 3. restore function (i.e. flexion in his case) 4. prophylaxsis (continue with the reductive exercise as part of his normal warmup / cool down and once a day otherwise)


If however his symptoms no longer fit a Mckenzie Posterior derangment, he may well have some other issues lingering on - possibly more motor control issues (core stability / movement control) rather than mechanical stiffness or disc issues. this wil often happen as a result of fear-avoidance behaviour or pain inhibition of key muscles groups

But i think that if mckenzie helped initially, it's worth pursuing the extension principle to it's fullest including exploration of lateral glides (frontal plane work) if extension stops proving useful. - this is basic mckenzie principles that often get ignored or not taught - mckenzie is a lot more than the "Extension in lying" exercise. Sounds like you're using mckenzie already - let me know if you don't follow any of the above mckenzie stuff.


Keeping active is really important and even with a 'disc' injury, and i would think that a strengthening program can be continued with attention to his direction preference - keep him doing activities in Lx extension or neutral. jogging might be ok provided he doesn't slump and flex / sit in his cool down like so many do. Pilates (with an extension bias in his case) is a great form of exercise that would probably work in well with his physio.

discs like any soft tissue injury take at least 6 weeks to fully heal once they are unloaded and repetitive stresses are taken out of the equation. even after he feels symptom free (well before full healing takes place) he is at risk of reinjurying - so he should continue his reductive exercise even after he starts to feel 'pain free' and then continue on to work with you in regaining flexion in a safe and controlled way.

hope my thoughts help.
keep up the good work matey!

And lastly - don't put too much stock into CT's and scans - go with his symptoms. Broadbased disc bulges are really common and often do not correlate with symptoms. go with what you see and assess!

[jacinta]

Hi Aussie,

thank you for the advise.
his symptoms is now progressing, pain reducing slowly.

in fact, we started McKenzie's with trunk lat. slide in pr., as well as in frontal plane.
The latter, of course is for his convenience as he has a 9-5 office job.
But this gentleman prefer the earlier exercise as he found it more comfortable.
Flexion exercise is KIV until pain subside.

Very kind of you to remind me of pilates exercise.
I am planning to train his core stability with few ideas that i have:
1. crunches in crook ly with s/bags resistant.
2. 'Aeroplane' with gym-ball: (alternate )UL reaching forward & c/l LL backward.
3. Obliques muscle strengthening - sustain upper trunk twist in crook ly;hands behind head
4. upper trunk extension - hand behind back;

I am not train for pilates rehab. Got the ideas from researching book.
Hope to hear correction/suggestion from any expert out there.

This gentleman started swimming 1/52 as advised.
shall wait and see if his condition improve further.
cheers~

[KiwiDPT]

I only just read this but I would like to add to AussiePhysio's comments. I also use repeated movements with my low back assessments however sometimes I find repeated motions in standing can also increase a patients pain, and confound results. This is usually with the more acute cases. So I always add prone bilateral LE manual traction as an assessment, and prone on elbows. Also sometimes you may have to have them lay over a pillow or two as the extension from laying flat maybe too much.
Just my 2 cents for additional screens I use.