Hi,

There is such a thing as a stuck Wikipedia reference-linkSIJ, neuromuscular just hasn't seen one.

The point is that on certain tests which claim to be a stuck SIJ, it isn't - neuromuscular and i agree on this.

However that doesn't mean that there is no such thing as a stuck SIJ - that would be a logical error to conclude this from comparing one erroneous test to another.

However as discussed, it may be taught that the SIJ is stuck if a positive Stork Test is found. I disagree but i have made that clear.

An open discussion amongst anonymous people can still result in quoting the sources of your ideas.

Doing Hip ABD is NOT NEW. I have been doing it for years. you see, you take the principle of a test and you apply it to movements. Sagittal, Coronal and Transverse planes - and a combination of all 3 - that is after all the world we live in.

Perhaps you mean that you haven't found research done on coronal movement - this may be true. However the concept is not new.

Neuromuscular - in all seriousness and kindness, the APAS test has flaws which would not survive rigorous testing and come to the same conclusions as you have. You cannot claim the muscles are holding positions from this test alone. That is the problem i have with it.

I invite all people to try your test and see for themselves Neuromuscular - i haven't said it is a waste of time to try. I have said that it has done nothing for my clinical practice...and Roycar has said the same. I wonder who else has as well...

Have you tried the Stork test the way i have asked you to?
Additional Comment I forgot:
Also, if you don't like to know where other people get their information or reference where ideas and concepts have already been published, you mustn't be interested in what is actually out there...

...therefore you have an agenda...

If you want an informed discussion, read the material, do research and discuss the ideas.

A discussion is a two way street. Read the posts above - does it sound like you understand what i have asked you to do?

You ask us to try your APAS test and i have.

I have asked you to list the Google search terms or Pubmed search terms you have used and you haven't listed them yet - why? I can only presume that you haven't looked.

Therefore your agenda is to

1. Put forward an idea without background
2. Put forward an idea and hope people give you the background (which i have done a lot of)
3. Don't care about the past or what is out there and push on ahead with your ideas...

Therefore, i have a problem with your assertions which are uneducated, unresearched and incorrect.

Thanks