thanks for the advice - but other than go to my GP, get referred to a physio I dont see where else I could go to get a clinical examination with an experienced therapist - I thought that was what I was getting? I'm not blaming my back at all its just what the physio told me, in fact the pain is well right of my spine anyway. I have now been sent with a letter to go for an injection (but dont want it) - so what sort of therapist should I look for?