Thanks! Logic tells me that this is the case, but if it it was me, I'd rather just refer someone if all the indications were there rather than tugging it like they did. No-one else will ever do any kind of drawer test on me!!! In the meantime I have began ACL Rehab as it we know definitely that it is torn. My MRI is scheduled for the 8th Jan. I asked the physio briefly about surgery earlier and she said that as long as it's not giving way, surgery is not indicated.