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    Re: Partial tear tricep tendon? Healing time?

    Is there pain on resistance of the tricep? Or pain on movement?
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    Sounds like an effusion at the moment, where on the triceps is the pain? Towards the elbow or the shoulder?

    Thanks for the welcome and an answer! Most appreciated!
    Strangely, there is no pain directly from moving or even linear to force production. Just an ever-present irritation in my elbow. It's a rather diffuse pain, not well confined within one specific muscle, but felt throughout the elbow and reaching 5cm or so up the lateral tricep (More toward the tendon). Following any tricep activity, the pain gets worse after 15 minutes or so. A small lump has formed on the lateral tricep, 3-4cm from the elbow. The 'pop' appears while exerting force in an bench-press-like movement at about 100 degrees angle between upper and lower arm, which by coincidence is the exact same angle as that fatal lift-off.

    Additionally what Have you done so far?
    I've attempted to have an Wikipedia reference-linkMRI, but I will probably have to wait forever for it.
    I was concidering HGH to increase collagen synthesis, but it's too expensive. Yes, I am desperate. In sum, all that has been done thus far is not doing any pushing-motions or triceps training, and putting on an ice pack every day (this seems to help a bit). I haven't used any COX-2 inhib. yet, because I read a study saying it isn't benefitial the first 10 days of an inflammation and makes tendons brittle. I don't know if that's even true .

    Oh, and ye, what is an effusion, and can I do anything about it?


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    Re: Partial tear tricep tendon? Healing time?

    Quote Originally Posted by vio View Post
    Thanks for the welcome and an answer! Most appreciated!
    Strangely, there is no pain directly from moving or even linear to force production. Just an ever-present irritation in my elbow. It's a rather diffuse pain, not well confined within one specific muscle, but felt throughout the elbow and reaching 5cm or so up the lateral tricep (More toward the tendon). Following any tricep activity, the pain gets worse after 15 minutes or so. A small lump has formed on the lateral tricep, 3-4cm from the elbow. The 'pop' appears while exerting force in an bench-press-like movement at about 100 degrees angle between upper and lower arm, which by coincidence is the exact same angle as that fatal lift-off.
    Hmmm, almost sounds like Olecranon Bursitis as opposed to a muscle tear. Sounds like something is amiss with the joint area if there is no pain on muscular contraction. Especially if there is a cyst appearing, but that can also be a micro-effusion.
    I've attempted to have an Wikipedia reference-linkMRI, but I will probably have to wait forever for it.
    I was concidering HGH to increase collagen synthesis, but it's too expensive.
    Is there any evidence regarding this?
    Yes, I am desperate. In sum, all that has been done thus far is not doing any pushing-motions or triceps training, and putting on an ice pack every day (this seems to help a bit). I haven't used any COX-2 inhib. yet, because I read a study saying it isn't benefitial the first 10 days of an inflammation and makes tendons brittle.
    There is some debate about this, but ibuprofen has been shown to inhibit muscle protein synthesis in vivo, and inhibition of the natural inflammatory reaction is also a rather un-ending debate.
    I don't know if that's even true .
    To an extent yes
    Oh, and ye, what is an effusion, and can I do anything about it?
    Without actually seeing in person what it is it is difficult to say, but it sounds as if there is definitely fluid beginning to build up at the site of injury. You may benefit from elevating your arm, continue with the iceing.
    AS above, regards


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    Re: Partial tear tricep tendon? Healing time?

    As for HGH, it is a well documented fact that it increases collagen synthesis along with healing of tendons and cartilage. I'm a bit too busy to scan all of pubmed right now (I'll get back to that later), but a quick google offered these hits:

    http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/ind...s&therow=66820

    Natural HGH | Natural HGH Benefits (I.e.; Tag: Case studies)

    Ok, let's get down to business! Here is the exciting update on my injury!
    I got the results from my MR today. The doc was unable to make anything of it. It seemed next to normal. Upon inspection of my elbow that diagnose was soon discarded. My tendon still dislocates over the apex of my elbow (epicondyle?), but it has now become apparant that it is in fact my medial triceps tendon, and it's moving about on the inside of my arm (facing torso that is). My lateral triceps is ok.. the lateral bloat was caused by an inflammation in my bicep, which has been damaged along with the triceps. Yes yes.
    My arm is hurting 24/7 nowadays, even though I'm not using my triceps. It's not like beeing burned alive or anything, it's just a mild sensation of discomfort. Using my triceps is ok if I do so within the range of motion from fully extended to 80% degrees between upper and lower arm, but if I do a full extention the tendon pops (regardless what weight I'm pushing) and my arm swells and hurts even worse for several days. I tested my lockout strength in bench press yesterday. It is down from 212.5kg to 160kg in 3 weeks, but it is just equally bad on both arms, so I guess that's just from lack of bench pressing the last weeks.

    What can I do about this? The doc was boggled and didn't know what to do. No help there. From googling all I can find is scary surgery pics and suggestions that I should cut off my triceps and reattach it somewhere else and so on.


    Poor me.


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    Re: Partial tear tricep tendon? Healing time?

    I haven't heard of HGH, but I know the NFL has successfully used Corticosteroid injections for injured athletes.
    If the Wikipedia reference-linkMRI did not show any anomalies it could be the type of imaging technique used, and area that was examined is not the area or cause of symptom.



 
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