Timelines for the credentals process in Canada by the Allaince.

[Danappan]

Hey en eq,

Have you checked the alliance website, they seems to have some info about the current status of the applications, not too much info, but still will tell you what stage is ur processing in!. And just a heads up, I know that in Australia there is a lot of advances in manipulation and mobilisation teqniues stuff like mulligan etc.. but dont expect to find that in Canada, the Registered Physio just assess the patients and sets up a treatment protocol, mostly exercise therapy techs, gait training, balance training, use of assistve devices etc and some ultrasound therapy.. that all the Physiotherapy you can find here in Canada. As fas I know if you want to do some real hard core therapy like spinal mobilizations, then you need to take separate classes and insurance etc before you can. The bulk of the treatments are carried out by PT assistants or aides, and if you are unlucky enough to get a job as a PT assistant in an old age care home, you will have to treat about 70- 80 residents a day and break your back each day before you go home. Although there is a time limit set by the ministry which should be followed, it hardly ever is. What the ministry says is that to be counted as one session of physiotherapy for 1 person who needs individual care the min time limit is 15mis, and for a group exercise program, a group of no more than 4 residents for 15 mins minimum. Where I used to work, i was made to handle about 15-20 residents in one group for about 20-25 mins. The PT's make the PT assistant do it, because the PT's are paid per person they treat on a daily basis. the more residents a PTA treats, more money the PT gets.. as simple as that.... The case in clinics are also pretty much similiar, may be not too much of exercise therapy but pretty much the same picture.


I just want you to know how things work in Canada, Good Luck.

[Crystal R. Westergard]

Dear Danappan, It sounds like you have been experiencing the low end of physiotherapy practice! In Alberta the physios in care of the elderly are not paid by how many they see per day, or see per hour or per anything. The physio is paid a set rate regardless. In respected private practices, physios here do mobs, manips and mulligan techniques too. Perhaps when you should move to Alberta or Saskatchewan? You will need a course in manips if you want to manip people's spines. But considering you could paralyse someone, I think that's reasonable. If you have the potential to rise above the kind of physiotherapy practices you describe, then I encourage you to do so!

[Danappan]

Dear Danappan, It sounds like you have been experiencing the low end of physiotherapy practice! In Alberta the physios in care of the elderly are not paid by how many they see per day, or see per hour or per anything. The physio is paid a set rate regardless. In respected private practices, physios here do mobs, manips and mulligan techniques too. Perhaps when you should move to Alberta or Saskatchewan? You will need a course in manips if you want to manip people's spines. But considering you could paralyse someone, I think that's reasonable. If you have the potential to rise above the kind of physiotherapy practices you describe, then I encourage you to do so!

Hey Crystal,

No offense meant, I just wrote what I have been though, and I know of many other people who are also going through the same system, but then again, we are not in Alberta, but in Ontario. I am sure you have better working conditions in Alberta, but that to me is still a distant dream for people like us here in Ontario. And to rise above the established system here, is something I really long for and hope to do it as soon as I am through with my PCE, but till then ........ PT assistants are assistants with no voice in any decision making process, no matter even if you are a master deg holder with more than 6 years of formal PT training at a university level abroad.

[emad]

I am so happy to see the discussion is going great here about the credentials , because most of the past threads here on the forum are not that good and descripative. According to the Allaince website there is backlog and many applicants meaning we will have more applicants sharing us their experience soon . So far, we have indian, australian, dutsh physiotherapists and Canadian physiotherapist Crystal who we wish sharing us more information about the canadian context.

Dana, Thank you very much for the loaded attached reports. I took fast glance but I will studied them well then write post here soon about them.

Great wishes to all