New Zealand Registration in 8 weeks

[pncool]

Hi gcoe,

Thanks! I will check with the UNI to find out more about this.. From your reply I understand this is similar to a Non-degree course for some credits ( points) which you could take anytime and those credits can be added to a full degree course if you wish to do so later. Any idea if such a course can be joined in the middle of the year? I know that UNI semester starts from 1st March but I believe that the papers are distributed over a period of one year in 4 semesters?

pncool.

[gcoe]

Hi pncool

Not quite sure what you are saying in the first half of your message - just check you understand my response as it sounds a bit contradictory. And if I were you I would be very clear with the board about what they will and won't accept as you sound like you are going for the absolute minimum you can get away with.

As for courses both Otago Uni and AUT offer courses in semesters and so therefore you can usually enrol half way through the year for the second semester. Just check on their websites for courses that may interest you. You would enrol in a Post grad cert, post grad dip or Masters so would have to apply formally for the course - includes evidence of your previous degree amongst other things they require for an overseas students. So this will involve a bit of work. You would then take if form there:

Otago:

School of Physiotherapy

AUT:

School of Physiotherapy

[Fyzzio]

... and those credits can be added to a full degree course if you wish to do so later.

Hi pncool,
I agree with gcoe. It's not going to be that easy.
As I understand: you enroll at University for a "programm" rather than just a single paper.
E.g.: You enroll for Post grad Certificate and start with 2 papers. You can then put the programme on hold (I cannot remember for how long this is possible) and either discontinue or re-start some time later. Only in this case, your credits would remain and count towards the certificate (or diploma if you want to go that way).

However, best is really to:
A) ask the Board what they understand you need to do
B) contact the Universities to check what they are able to offer in your particular case

Cheers,
Fyzzio

[pncool]

Thanks Fyzzio & GCOE. I will find out from the Univ about the programs. I would be happy to undertake a comprehensive course which will add on to my clinical knowledge as well.

Do you all know of any Physio from India who has undertaken course in NZ and then got the registration?

pncool.

[Fyzzio]

Hi pncool,
the NZ Ministry of Health/Manatu Hauroa has just published the "Summary results from the 2009 Health Workforce Annual Survey" for the Physiotherapist Workforce.
In table 3 : Qualification country of active physiotherapists, 2009 it says:

India: 4

The total of returned surveys in this section was 2456.

So, I guess, your chances to find someone who has done this successfully before, are slim.
God luck,
Fyzzio

[sazzle]

HiYa!!! Just slowly and painfully trawling through the NZ application form and glad to hear that there are success story's out there! I wondered if anyone out there who has been specialised in one area for more than the 10 years and therefore lacking the "hands on" experience for example in the Respiratory! What happens then. As lucky or not so lucky my past hospital I worked in is going to help me gain some work experince in Neurology however everyone seems a little reluctant to help out in the Respiratory department. So although I've recently managed to work part time locum and have some basic hands on physiotherapy and have a reference to confirm this, But is it enough! My time on ITU only just falls within the past ten years and the board said they would accept it but it would not be a strong piece of evidence. So I don't know a one day refresher course maybe? Any thoughts or suggestions much appreciated

[lisa0000]

what type of visa have people got if they want to work for a couple of years out in NZ? and is it just the visa and registration you need? or is there a governing body you have to join?thanks
lisa

[Fyzzio]

Hi,
the registration gives you permission to apply for a license.
The license is called "Annual practising certificate" and costs about $250,- per annum. You are not able to work without it.
The Physiotherapy Board of New Zealand > Annual Practising Certificate
You have to collect professional development information in a portfolio/logbook, which runs on a 3 year cycle. The portfolio is required for re-certification and will occasionally be checked by the Physioboard.

You can become a member of the NZ Society of Physiotherapists, which I would highly recommend (this includes liability insurance), but this is not compulsory.
: NZ Society of Physiotherapists

Visa, or better permits depends on your age, etc. See here:
Working in New Zealand

Hope this helps,
regards,
Fyzzio

[lisa0000]

thank you thats really helpful, are u out ther working at the moment? the cost does add up doesnt it! not sure what visa i want as just want to work for a few years like a holiday working visa in oz.

how are u finding the job market out there?
lisa

[Fyzzio]

Hi,
I have been in NZ for more than 10 years and always had a job.
Am lucky that my employer pays for the APC.

Generally, as you can also read in other threads, since the latest changes in November 2009, the job situation is really bad.
Have heard that even in "not so desirable" areas, there is currently up to 50 people applying for 1 new grad rotational position, of which ~80% are Physios with massive amounts of experience, who cannot get jobs in private practices after being made redundant ...

Sorry, looks quite grim here ....

Regards,
Fyzzio

[gcoe]

Hi

Fyzzio is absolutely right. Don't even consider coming here unless you can land a job in advance or just want a holiday. I don't think things will get better for quite some time. The private practice market has really been squeezed by the accident and injury insurance changes and the current conservative government is cutting back on hospital budgets.

[KathyJ]

Hi,

I am just starting the process for my New Zealand registration. Would it be possible to ask for some help on the CV template. Would anyone who has gained resgistration be able to send me an example of what they have done? I am not sure how much information to put on there.

Also examples of reflection statement and CPD would be fab.

Thanks in advance.
Kat

[jean85]

Hi guys,

Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this topic so far it has been extremely helpful! Like alot of you I am also trying to get started on the application, I just have a quick question i need to clarify in relation to the clinical hours profile, does this need to be provided by the university or do we prepare our own and get it validated by the university? What have other people done? Also, has anyone had any trouble getting a copy of their course curriculum from their university?

Many Than

[Snowowl]

Hi guys!

This thread is so helpful, thank you very much for this and congratulations to all who recieved their registration!!! By reading this some of my questions are already answered.
I am a German physio with a Netherlands bac who is also looking for the registration. I know it seems mad at the time if I look at the jobsituation or my studies, but however I will try. I think the biggest problem will be CP or the problem that only worked with prescriptions till now.
Jean85, I have similar problems with my curriculum - it is in German and as I know that my German curriculum will not be adequate for the board, I am not willing to translate it (anyway, I haven't got the money for this either). this leads me to my basic question: Anybody here who might have a translated German curriculum??? What if my German studies fell before or in the 10 years period? Will it be assessed than or not? If not this would solve some of my biggest problems at the moment.
Good luck to you all!
Claudia

[erine09]

Just to let those people know that are in process or considering do there registration. I got mine through in Nov it has cost me a lot of money to complete it and then there are visas to pay for. This whole process is not cheap! At the moment I still have not got a job and I have been looking since January. The competition is very high and it is very very difficult to find work at the mo so I am still stuck in the UK! So, may suggest is you think about this before doing the whole process and paying all that money out and not able to get a job in NZ!

[gcoe]

Hey erine09

sound advice considering the current job market in NZ

[jamesmayur]

after looking at the situation i want to know will it be better if i do sport & exercise science in WINTEC university & then try for a job rather than doing masters in physiotherapy in NZ ?? i have done bachlors in physiotherapy from india this year.
i need your suggestions help me !!!

[gcoe]

Hi Jamesmayur.

Most physios with undergraduate training in India have problems meeting the NZ Physio Board requirements for registration in NZ.

The WINTEC course would give you a qualification completely outside physiotherapy. It would not improve your chances of registration in here or many other countries such as Australia. And it would not be considered part of physiotherapy practice although it would be broadening your skills.. However if you wanted to pursue an exercise physiology career this sort of course would do.

WINTEC is not a University. It is a polytechnic which in NZ means a lower level of education than a university. Personally I would be more inclined to apply for a more prestigious institute. In Auckland both AUT (Auckland University of Technology) and Auckland University offer post graduate courses in sport and exercise science. AUT is where one of the schools of physiotherapy is housed so you would have that link. Auckland University is one of our top universities and they do some excellent research in the exercise science area - including some rehabilitative science. Have a look at their programmes

If you want to pursue a physiotherapy career then you would be better off going to one of the physiothereapy schools. In which case consider either Otago university in the South Island or AUT physiotherapy school post grad qualifications. Have a look on their websites and you will see what post grad degrees and course that make up these degrees are available. While it is difficult for to get registration to practice in NZ temporary registration is much more easily attained that you can apply for when enrolling in a course. We have a lot of Indian physios completing higher degrees at these schools and the experience generally seems favourable.

One word of warning: when you have completed your post graduate qualification there may still be hurdles to permanent registration as the board is interested in your basic competencies in cardiopulmonary, neurological and musculoskeletal physiotherapy. However NZ post grad physio courses have good international standing in physiotherapy

[lisa0000]

Hi, just wanted to ask those who have used the new templates and got successful registration:

did u just reference your appendix in the template or write a sentance to expain/justify what part of the competency it meets?

im finding alot of what im putting in the templates is repetitive in each competency is this right/normal?

hope that makes sense!
thanks in advance
lisa

[Laura01]

also is it 3-5 pieces of evidence in total or for each of the 3 specialities?
what stage are you at Lisa?
I'm also compiling it spent ages doing all the wee footery bits!
laura

[lisa0000]

hiya. i am doing it as i rotate so have done the respiratory bit and doing the msk bit. just trying to gather all the bits and peices together too. not sure if im doing too much but trying to do case studies as evidence.

i understand it to be 3-5 bits per compentency as the templates show.
lisa

[Laura01]

i've been doing all the easy stuff like the treaty, the application form and now the cv, so just need to get stuck into the nitty gritty! been gathering information for ages so just need to bite the bullet and get it done-not my preferred choice of how to spend my weekend but hey!
good luck!

[anniet24_uk]

Hi

Can I just ask if anyone has looked into the payment side of things? I realise they want the money paid from a New Zealand bank account but being in the UK im not sure of the best one to set up online? does anyone have an ideas or know of good banks to use?

thanks annie xx

[Laura01]

Hi

Can I just ask if anyone has looked into the payment side of things? I realise they want the money paid from a New Zealand bank account but being in the UK im not sure of the best one to set up online? does anyone have an ideas or know of good banks to use?

thanks annie xx

i'm pretty sure that you can pay with a bankers draft, where you go into your own bank pay the fee and they convert it into NZ dollars. kinda like a postal order i think

[Fyzzio]

Hi,
just a quick warning, as I read something here about case studies:

In one of our recent Physio meetings, we discussed ethics and confidentiality.
I hadn't looked into it for a while, but apparently, in NZ, you are not permitted to publish/ send/ share anything that could identify the client. To black-out a person's name, DOB, etc. isn't good enough. You also have to take out ANY clinical information, e.g. muscle strength testing, etc.

Our facilitator had also reviewed the guidelines for the registration application form and on page 14 is a warning, which highlights the same.

Therefore, may I just suggest to not send any case studies to the Physioboard. Unless, of course, you have got written client consent.

Cheers,
Fyzzio