In Australia here discussions are very, very open and to the point. The ISCP are aware of what happen to the named professor below as was all of the APA when the apology was made in our journal as well. The discussion has arose of the training under physical therapsist as we are definitly not the same. The experienced state registered chartered physiotherapists are having problems with thoses trained under physical therapists and this is being discussed more and more at courses and conferences since the high influx of northern hemisphere physios since 2006 when there were lack of graduatee jobs. We understand quite a lot about the irish physio scene as many fellow Australians lecture and travel for conferences as well as many Irish chartered physiotherapists completing their masters over here are voicieng their concerns on the influence of physical therapists