sorry I didn't mean to paint all the NHS physio's with the same brush, its just that I've had two physio's from the NHS and they both seemed to do the same thing, where you would ask them to explain a reason for my pain or some swelling and they seemed to make it seem insignificant as if it wasn't a problem, I don't know is this what all physio's do?

its just the last physio I had, I would ask him about the swelling on my knee and he just said 'yeah its a bit of bone' as if it had nothing to do with the actual problem. I mean the first post I got back here suggested a possible baker's cist, which he didn't mention at all - he didn't mention any other possibilities actually - and then he would just say that my knee was stable and everything looked fine when I said I was still feeling pain, which I just find plain weird.

He didn't suggest any strength programs or anything, even after I suggested to him that endurance might be my problem he gave me an exercise for people who had a loose knee cap, which was putting my full weight on the one leg and dipping downwards which made it hurt eventually.

maybe its just my experience, but I think I'll try and maybe find a sports physio to have a look.

kind regards
alex