Limited Registration Australia

[Claire55555]

Hi
I am heading out to Sydney in October of this year on a working holiday visa for 1 to 2 years and am hoping to work on a limited registration. I have now specialised in MSK physio and am hoping to get a job in this area. With the change to AHPRA that happened on the 1st July it now seems that the registration i will need will be limited registration in the public's interest. In order to get this I will need to get an offer of employment from an employer willing to provide supervision and write to AHPRA saying this. I will also need to send a form off to the Australian Physio Council with the offer of employment details as well as a lot of info about my degree course etc to prove that i cant get full registration (I graduated in 2006 from the University of Birmingham, England) at the price of $440, and this takes about 4 weeks to be processed.
I am happy to go through this process but my concern is finding an employer that will be willing to as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions or awareness of how practical this will be?
Thank you so much for any help
Claire

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[hilarystoddart]

Hi Claire

I am also hoping to do something similar, and would be grateful for any information.

Hilary

[APC Office]

Hilary and Claire

There is a shortage of physiotherapists in Australia and employers are very likely to be more than happy to offer employment and support your application. This system has been in place in Victoria and South Australia for several years and has not hindered applicants for limited registration. The difference now is that rather than the Board sending documents to the APC, the applicant must send them to the APC and then apply to the Board. This is due to the national law requirements.

You can search for jobs online at seek.com.au and physiotherapy.asn.au. You could also place an advertisement with physiotherapy.asn.au

Hope this helps you both - Australia does need experienced physiotherapists.

The Australian Physiotherapy Council
Additional Comment I forgot:
Further to last reply, there are also positions advertised on physiobase.com

[ljrobbob]

Hey guys.

Well, I am actually doing what you are proposing at the moment! I'm working in Melbourne at the moment. Been in South Aus before here and I came in Jan on a years Working Holiday Visa.

I initially got 'Limited Registration' with the board of South Australia back in January and got an offer of a job before I came out here. Then, with all the change on July 1st, my registration is now 'Limited Registration in the Public Interest', so yea: that is the correct registraion.

As the other post says, employers are more than willing to work with you on the process and fill in the 2 most important bits of your registraion which is:
a) a letter saying you will have a supervisor and have been offered work,
and
b) a copy of some form of professional indemnity insurance.

For the latter, most public and private hospitals will place you on there insurance, so it costs you nothing. If you work in private practice (which most MSK will be), then it's likely that you will need to get your own insurance, costs upto $800 for the year I think. CSP insurance doesn't cover you over here.

My advice is email physio managers about jobs and try to get it all sorted before you leave the UK. That's what I did back in December, and sorted out work in June for me to start in July. The process with the AHPRA is VERY SLOW at the moment due to all the change, and what you don't want is to be sitting in Australia with a visa ticking down and no work due to the registration not coming through.

With re. to the working holiday visa. You only get a years WHV here. You; have to do at least 88 days of work in fruit picking, construction, farming etc................in a 'rural' part of Australia (its all post code related, check out the visa website)
If you do that, you can apply to get a second WHV while your in Australia. Totally ridiculous if you ask me. But that might be something you fancy.

Claire: Few questions. How much experience do you have as a UK physio? For private MSK I think you may struggle with 'Limited Registration' in place. Mainly due to the 'supervised practice' aspect of the rules & regs of 'Limited Registration' and the amount of actual supervision someone in private practice can offer, but you never know.

You could get fully registered before you come here and save yourself a little bit of hassle you know. Do you have more that 12 months UK physio experience................and have you heard of the New Zealand route?

It's honestly not hard to find work as a physio here, it's just the registration malarky that's a pain.

Hope that helps.
Fire any more questions across if you need.

Liam.

[mattiazambaldi]

hi everyone!
how do you manage to get a sponsor? I mean, you need to have it before leaving europe.. where do you look for it? any website to suggest?

thanks

[durranthelen]

Hi There, can anyone shed any light for me on limited registration please! I have managed to find an employer that can employ me under these terms, I also have sent of the application for assessment for limited registration which is curently being processed. I am now trying to fill out the last part the actual limited registration application ready for when the APC hopefully approve my skills to work in this employment. I am confused as the limited registrationa application just says i need to get my empoyer to fill out the back two pages of the form, write a letter saying they know and accept there responsibilities as a supervisor and finally a letter saying why they need someone under limited registration in the public interest. This i can do.. however in the procedures of supervisors documents.. it states before i start employment i need to fill out part A and B to assess my competence and make a supervision plan with my employer. How can i have my competence assessed if i am not allowed to treat pateints yet as im not registered? and also im not in the coutry yet as i start my job a week aftre i get there?! does anyone understand this process or have completed it? as i leave the country in 2 weeks and need to sort it all out before i go, i thought i was all sorted with a job and the app going through.. now i feel a bit stuck?!! help?!

[Teekay]

Hilary and Claire

There is a shortage of physiotherapists in Australia and employers are very likely to be more than happy to offer employment and support your application. This system has been in place in Victoria and South Australia for several years and has not hindered applicants for limited registration. The difference now is that rather than the Board sending documents to the APC, the applicant must send them to the APC and then apply to the Board. This is due to the national law requirements.

You can search for jobs online at seek.com.au and physiotherapy.asn.au. You could also place an advertisement with physiotherapy.asn.au

Hope this helps you both - Australia does need experienced physiotherapists.

The Australian Physiotherapy Council
Additional Comment I forgot:
Further to last reply, there are also positions advertised on physiobase.com

With regards to the limited registration, can you change employers??? if yes can you start working for the employer while you wait for a new limited registration application to come through?

[katielondon]

What a helpful thread!
I'm just starting the process of looking for work for next Feburary in Oz (I'll be travelling from October and so am keen to sort as much as I can now) and I'm fairly confused to be honest!
If anyone with any experience can answer my questions I'd be massively grateful!
- I've printed off a 12 page form for Limited Registration in the Public Interest, is this the only forms I need?
- Do I fill this form in and then apply for jobs?...then wehn/if I get a job they'll write to the APC?
- From what I've read you need a WHV too, is that correct?
- Is it easy enough to sort employment before moving out to Oz?
- I've seen lots of adverts for outpatients work, are there a good selection of inpatients jobs?

I'm sure all these questions have been asked in various combinations before and thanks to you guys for sharing your knowledge (and time!!!) trying to help others make the move. Obviously looking for a job in Feb 2012 is a bit tricky from April 11 but I'm really keen to get as much in place as possible.
Many thanks
Katie

[physiobob]

Also of course there's a large amount of Aussie private practice jobs on www.physiobob.com

[raglan86]

Hi Liam,

Thankyou for the really useful advice. How are you finding working out there?
I qualified last year and by this september i will have my 1st years experience completed. I have so far worked 6 months in MSK and 6 months as a locum in the community. I am planning to come out to australia in march and would love to be able to keep my skills up along the way. Do you think there would be any chance of me getting limited reg to be able to work over there? I already have a WHV sorted.

Hilary and Claire have you had any further luck with your applications?

Thanks again
sarah

[ljrobbob]

Work out here is really good.
Depends what you want to do I suppose. Im a city boy, so iv gone for the city option, living and working in Melbourne at the moment.
It's well paid over here! And the support is great. Lots of learning opportunities.

Youl be able to get limited registration yes, but it will take some time to process. So fill in all the forms as soon as your able, get it sent off, then look at getting in touch with people about work and if someone can be your 'supervisor' etc...........Wont be a problem in finding the work, youv just gota be organised :-)

Life is sooooooo good out here. Come Join!!!

Beats the UK NHS to the ground!!

:-)

[raglan86]

Brilliant will get onto that asap! Cant wait now! thankyou
sarah

[J.Lalor]

Hi ljrobbob,
I am an Irish citizen due to graduate with a physiotherapy degree from the UK in June. I am hoping to go to Austrailia, Melbourne in particular through the limited registration application process. I have started my application but was wondering if you had information on how I would go about getting a job which allows me to have a supervsior/sponsor?
I would be very grateful for any information on this.

Kind regards,
Joyce

[alexander3321]

hello and it seems great really. well looking forward to be there as soon as possible. may be it will be very useful to go there once.

[Shealan19]

Hello
I am currently looking into working in sydney later on next year. All this information has been great as i was really confused on the process. I undsertand now that i have to get a limited registration. But does this mean that I am unable work in Sydney cause this is apart of New South Wales??
Also, I have 2 quick questions for ljrobbob. In your logs, you mentioned going through New Zealand. I've been looking into that route and i was just wondering if you had any information on it. I mainly wanted to know how long i would have to work in NZ prior to being able to work or get registered in Aussie.
The other question is: Are you working in a hospital in Melbourne? You had said that they offer a lot of support and training/learning opportunities. I qualified in Manchester and moved back to canada to get my competency exams over with. Now i'm working in a rural community as the sole physio with NO support. So i'm dying for a good supportive learning environment to start learning and developing my physio skills. Is this in anyway possible in aussie with limited registration??
thank you very much for your time
Have a great day in Melbourn, its a great city to be in!

[Shealan19]

Hello, just a quick add on from the last cause I didn't work it right. I was mainly wondering how hard it was to find work in a hospital in a big city with limited registration. As i understand the employer can/will hire if there is no other aussie qualified physio's. I would think people would all flock to the city.
Thanx again

[ljrobbob]

Hey Shealan19.

Erm, im confused with what you mean.
If you get registered under 'limited registration in the public interest', then YES, you will be allowed to work in Sydney. And YES, Sydney is in New South Wales. If you get registered, you can work where you want.

With re. to NZ.
It'l take about 4-5 months to go through if you do it correct.
You need to have worked for at least 12 months where you qualified prior to applying.
Registration is not guaranteed, so if you dont satisfy the NZ board, they wont register you.
You DO NOT have to work in NZ if you get NZ registration.
You get NZ registration. Then if successful, you are eligible to apply for 'General Registration' with the physio board of Australia.

Finally.
I an on Limited registration. and iv had it renewed for another year in line with renewing my Working holiday visa. Yes, I am in a hospital, in the city. And yes, there is much support. I work with around 20 other physios. Work on my own, but there is so much support that you never feel isolated.
If you look around, you can find good work.

Hope that helps.

Liam.

[Shealan19]

Hello ljrobbob
Thanx so much for your reply! Sorry, I think I was a little confused when i was writing it! But your NZ information really helped. I was really struggling to find the answers to those questions.
It turns out I can't get a second working holiday visa so limited registration is not an option at this point. I had a holiday visa about 8 year ago when went tranveling to aussie and didn't work a full 88days in the needed area's. So i'm looking into sponsorship visa's.
I guess my main question to you was (i'll try and word it properly)- with limited reg and with the sponsorship visa, the host hospital has to prove that its in the 'public interest' to hire me. Which I understand as they have to prove or say that they can't find someone else to do the job. So in the bigger cities, wouldn't it be harder to get an employer to give you a job if most physio's (foreigne and local) head to the bigger centers for a job? How did you go about gettin a job in hospital in a big city?
Everything that you mentioned about your job sounds amazing and I only hope this works out
Thanx again for takin the time to answer my questions!

[ljrobbob]

Get limited registraion 'supervised practice' then, it will be easier for you.
Need someone to be onsite 75% of the time you practice, so many hospitals will be able to accommodate this.

I just looked hard and got involved. It's the only way your going to find jobs really. Get looking, there are lots out there.

thanks

liam

[almavivi]

I have my offer letter however I am afraid that it is no correct because my supervisor express that he is going to be with me the first month and then we are going to have a weekly meetings, just wondering if you could check it and give me an advice.

My Email is [email protected]

Best regards,
Viviana

Get limited registraion 'supervised practice' then, it will be easier for you.
Need someone to be onsite 75% of the time you practice, so many hospitals will be able to accommodate this.

I just looked hard and got involved. It's the only way your going to find jobs really. Get looking, there are lots out there.

thanks

liam

[Laura01]

Hey Shealan19.

Erm, im confused with what you mean.
If you get registered under 'limited registration in the public interest', then YES, you will be allowed to work in Sydney. And YES, Sydney is in New South Wales. If you get registered, you can work where you want.

With re. to NZ.
It'l take about 4-5 months to go through if you do it correct.
You need to have worked for at least 12 months where you qualified prior to applying. Registration is not guaranteed, so if you dont satisfy the NZ board, they wont register you.
You DO NOT have to work in NZ if you get NZ registration.
You get NZ registration. Then if successful, you are eligible to apply for 'General Registration' with the physio board of Australia.

Finally.
I an on Limited registration. and iv had it renewed for another year in line with renewing my Working holiday visa. Yes, I am in a hospital, in the city. And yes, there is much support. I work with around 20 other physios. Work on my own, but there is so much support that you never feel isolated.
If you look around, you can find good work.

Hope that helps.

Liam.

You only need to have 12months of experience if you did not complete a 4 year degree course, or undertook a masters (i.e accelerated programme)

[ljrobbob]

Correct you are.
I'm from the UK, so mine was 3 years.
This thread is obviously directed towards my experiences of applying for registration.
Every application is individualised.

B****r

[Teekay]

Registration is not guaranteed, so if you dont satisfy the NZ board, they wont register you.
You DO NOT have to work in NZ if you get NZ registration.

Finally.
I an on Limited registration. and iv had it renewed for another year in line with renewing my Working holiday visa. Yes, I am in a hospital, in the city. And yes, there is much support. I work with around 20 other physios. Work on my own, but there is so much support that you never feel isolated.
If you look around, you can find good work.

Hope that helps.

Liam.

Hi Liam,
Do you have an idea if you are allowed to change employer with your limited registration??? or allowed to change employer before applying for another limited registration from the APC?

[Sarah J]

Hello,
Im a junior physio currently working in the uk and looking to work in Sydney or Melbourne next summer 2011. Ive been looking into limited registration, can you work for 12 months with this registration and renew it for another year if you extend your holiday working visa? Do you have to change employers at 6months aswell? Any advice would be great, thanks very much!
Sarah J

[Shealan19]

Hello, I'm sorry but I don't have any information on how to renew limited reg. To get a second visa though you have to do at least 88 days of seasonal work.
Hope this helps